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We are pleased to announce that plans are in place for an exciting Ice Racing and Ice Drifting weekend at a new track location for our 3rd planned event this winter. With the help and support of the RM of Richot we will be bringing WSCC Fire on Ice to the town of St Adolphe on Feb 1st & 2nd! For those racers that miss the old days of the Mazenod track we anticipate you will enjoy this new location. Located on a retention pond just southeast of the edge of town this location offers a similar track design option as the old "Maz" as well as a great pit layout and extensive spectator viewing areas surrounding the track safely separated from the track. Registration on MSR will be open soon! stay tuned...

My issue with pax is that I can't tell if anyone is cheating. You do a car classing that has no easily identifiable limits to a class. example my evo. its ran as a mod car and SGT1 car with the only difference being how much boost it ran. it went fastest as a SGT1 car by 6 tenths (if it was competing for a Sgt class win would that raise concerns?). VS Gridlife or GTA rules that have very fast to identify limits to the classes. I can walk up to a car and visually place it in a Gridlife class fairly quickly and accurately without knowledge of the car since its rules are based on easily scrutinized aspects. ie tire size and tw, aero size and number of wing elements. Explaining pax classing and how it works is and always has been a hurdle to getting new faces out. the rules are very time consuming and cumbersome to negotiate. the only rules I found more frustrating to class with was SCCA. Pax has lots of non checkable holes and advantages that are purely based on the cars factory options and class. remember your base model 350z can't have a aftermarket diff without taking pips. But if you have the track pack (VLSD) then you are pip free to swap the diff to a clutch type of your choice well retaining your base pax.(I'm not a fan of these loop holes) This year we seen a 3 second delta with our frs between 2 setups that pax the same. Pax sees no advantage from 2 way coilovers but the transponder told us otherwise. how is it fair to a low class like gt that I can show up on kw 2 ways ($$$) and pax/Class the same as a stock ish frs on entry level suspension? the gridlife rules would punt me up a class and maintain the spirit of a low class to be a entry level stepping stone. my closing thoughts. Pax is not time attack. Time attack is a raw time competition with classes based around tires/ aero and engine size/ aspiration. the best driver does not always win, nor the best prepared car. regardless of what is decided I will see you all out in 2025 to continue chasing PB's and records

I had a whole big reply posted on my initial reaction to this poll a couple weeks back, but I deleted it quickly as I feared it would open up a can of worms. But it looks like a few more racers who were competing the last time we ran PAX seem to see it exactly the way I do. It was a good system, but it leaned a bit heavy towards the slowest cars with the newest adjustments that were made. My top times in one of the slowest classes, gave the record breaking ACR, and anyone else in that higher class, a next to impossible time to beat. I always thought a bit more tweaking was all it needed, but it was ditched anyway. I don't pretend to understand the amazing brains and math that goes into these calculations, I just see the end results on race day. All I know is that I drove the pants off that poor little red car! haha I don't understand why we can't just run whatever classes any other track in North America uses for theirs, why do we always have to be customizing things? Is it because we're car people? It would be nice to be on the same page as if I were to race elsewhere. My choice to vote for keeping things the same was based on the past talks we have all had about the current PAX system. It has more flaws than the way we are currently running, and sadly, those were our only options. And the track being repaved will be a big enough change for one year, in my opinion.

I think it boils down to what we want to do as a group of enthusiasts. I, myself, feel like I am with Tyler on the preference for something like GridLife. I relish the challenge of building something fast and unique in my garage. Simpler ruleset suits me the best. Walking down the pit lane and knowing which class each car fits into is appealing. I also recognize that time-attack can be a stepping stone into Road Race for some people and one global feature of road racing is a big thick rulebook. So, if we as a club decide we want to continue to run with lots of rules, I am OK with that as well. The roots of Time Attack out of Japan were weighted more towards the car with more minimal rules and basic classes based primarily on power-to-weight, tires, size of aero (not to suggest the driver is not important). This can get pretty serious for those interested in the challenge of building crazy stuff and also far better for spectators. In my opinion, we have open-lapping to get new people into the sport. Time Attack is often people’s first timed discipline on the road course. AutoX has a goal of trying to emphasize the driver and Road Racing around the world is geared more towards team competition (both trying to take every advantage you can find out of the rules and pairing that with a good driver - money clearly helps). Another driver focused discipline would be spec racing. Unfortunately we don’t have enough involvement to attract a big enough field of spec racers and close 2nd to this is a group of people building very similar cars and running them in Road Race. Someone suggested our rule sets have a significant impact on participation. I’m not personally convinced of that. Our rules do not prevent people from entering their cars. I see a better correlation between marketing events and participation. We recently came off a peak during Covid where our sport was one of the few allowed to continue. And I would sooner assume that tighter budgets these days are likely to have a bigger impact than which rules we use. Basing our rules on what impact they might have on a non-member visitor (such as someone from the US), who won’t be competing for the year’s point total anyway, also makes no sense. We only got in 8 race days this year and it was decided to use the best 6 out of 8 results. Even with that: - We had 1 person in ’T’ group attend every event (he was also the fastest in T). No one else, came out to more than 1 weekend (2 days). - We had 2 people in ‘GT’ vying for first place with a third that would have been in the running as well if his car did not break. - SGT was 1 person (with the potential for maybe another). - Only 1 person in Mod. - Not taking anything away from Kaycee, who deserved first place, frankly, Extreme was up for grabs for anyone that showed up to 6 out of 8 events this year. Myself and one other only made it to 4 events. I blame my lack of prep for my car failing to make 6+ events. Add this up - we have between 5 and 10 people that are serious about competing in Time Attack. 13 classes just doesn’t make sense to me. 2-3 serious people in GT would likely either have all 3 still in the same split class or 1 would be on their own. Also not good. Only given 3 options - leaving things the same makes the most sense. If given the chance to vote for something like GridLife, I would weigh that against the concept of having Time Attack positioned as a stepping stone to door-to-door Road Racing.

That's not what I'm saying, I think it takes both to win. As car enthusiasts why are we trying to take the car out of the equation?

I don’t believe PAX should be anywhere. Time Attack or the sprit of time attack is building the best car you can and driving it to the fastest lap you can. Not racing a calculator and guy in a car that is 9 seconds slower in a stock car or near stock car. I have never heard of PAX used in any other sanctioning body’s time attack classing. The only place I have heard it used is Autocross. As you can tell I don't care for it. I did Time Attack in BC from 2017-2021 and in that time they had a bispoke classing system that was out dated and participation had dwindled to 4-8 car fields as a support event for road racing. Classing was changed in 2019 to follow SCCA Time Trials new classing system. They now regularity sell out entire events for time attack, full days multi day events, and even evening events. They have events at multiple tracks now it’s revived the sport in BC. Im not suggesting we adopt that classing just showing that a big change like that can turn things around. If some really want or need to have the PAX great, put your name on a list of drivers that want PAX and grab your calculators to fight it out. The rest of us will do Time Attack.

My only issue .....going back to the 13-class system that was previously in use, had cars being "paxed" into lap-time territory that has never actually been achieved.

Posting this just for fun here's a draft rule book I wrote back in 2019 when we were having the same discussions over pax classing. I guess some topics never die out lol. rulebookV1.1 (1).docx

I really want to see this car on the grid at the first ice race weekend in our Street Safe Class! Cheapest door to door racing action anywhere! For anyone that buys it and comes racing I will donate a free rear facing light (the only thing it needs to race in this class). As well - to the buyer of this car 50% off the cost of the our first ice race weekend licensing school and race entry! All you need is a helmet! (And we rent those if you don’t have one). contact ice@wscc.mb.ca for more details about the ice racing if needed

Here are the results after Race #1. Thanks to all the competitors that put on a great show for the volunteers! WSCC FireOnIce 2025.pdf

Big shout out to our new Captain of Ice Race Promotion....Dylan Sabatini for designing yet another fabulous season poster for our race series.

You're right this isn't Nascar, F1 or autocross. The only time attack that I've heard of that actually uses a factoring system is OTA. There's maybe more but the majority of time attack events that I've seen have regulated classes that compete raw time. Why do we need to "properly prepare" a car for its class if pax is supposed to be the great equalizer? We've all seen numerous flaws in the pax system so I would disagree with the statement "all is equal". I understand everyone has a different budget and it's important that those with a lower budget still have a chance at winning. I think with good regulations and classes there can be room for modifications that improve lap time. With a limit of course, too many modifications would bump you into the next class. This makes the slower classes more favorable to lower budgets. We all know that racing isn't cheap and it's definitely not free. If there are "enthusiasts that don't feel the need or have the ability to put any money into a vehicle" i personally don't think that's how you win a championship in time attack. I don't think they should be "penalized" but I think it should be acceptable to allow some modifications within a class.

This whole classing thing leaves a sour taste in my mouth after the last meeting. Let’s get through a season on the new surface and then let the next time attack director re evaluate. Mathematical formulas have no place in Time Attack period. PAX belongs in Autocross and that’s it. My vote is copy a popular time attack classing system from the U.S. and paste into our rule book. We are too small a group to have our own classing system it just further isolates us from others coming from other states and provinces. rant/

If some ppl need the PAX handicap to be competitive, then how about a comprimize? Keep the classes with no PAX, but add one class with PAX for all that cars that want to run PAX. They can all run in one "PAX Class" since PAX is suppose to be the great equilizer anyways.

This is awesome to see! Congratulations to ALL the executive, volunteers, and everyone who's been involved (present and past) in bringing this project to completion over many, many years. It didn't happen over night.

Big thanks to all the volunteers that helped support our best weekend of the year. Great weather, great car count and all kinds of exciting track action. It was great to see the paddock full of cars and campers! 4 – Friday HPDE entries 37 – Friday Open Lapping & Test/Tune entries 8 – Saturday Open Lapping entries 5 – Sunday Open Lapping entries 21 – Saturday Time Attack entries 18 - Sunday Time Attack entries 13 – Road Race entries 19 – Saturday Skid Pad Drift entries 11 – Saturday Road Course Drift entries 5 - Sunday Skid Pad Drift entries Wow!!!!!!

Check out the promo video that was provided to us following our event #1. Special thanks and shout out to Edward van Zyl for his fabulous photography and editing skills. https://youtu.be/vdY9yBkEjm0 Feel free to contact him if you have questions or are looking for additional footage/pictures. Edward van Zyl edward@d3d.ca Creating stories frame by frame.

Paint Party #2 was a success and the GMP road course now has a fully painted track edge with FIM approved paint. Big shout out to Steve Leiding, Wayne Schellekens and Helmut Friedrich who came out to join me along with Riley from the MRA club who also rounded up several more bike race volunteers as the day went on. Its no easy task to paint 2 coats of a 4" line over 3 miles long. An additional comment...only those people who volunteered to help paint the track will be allowed to comment on the "straightness" of the lines. All other comments or feedback will be gleefully ignored! Lol. Paint Party #3 will be scheduled likely later in June to paint the curbing and the pit stalls. Stay tuned.

After many hours and discussions the WCMA has deemed our section of the runway safe for EVs to autocross. I will be working on some EV specific supp regs and will have them posted by the end of the month. We will have to purchase a few safety items and vehicle owners will have to know their vehicles safety protocols and what to do in an emergency.

Printable poster of our planned GMP events

several reasons.... 1 - this weekend is mid October in Manitoba...we could likely have snow then. lol. It would be unfair to some competitors to commit to a weekend that counts for season points when there is such a big risk of inclement weather - some racers might not ice race tires : ) 2 - I received feedback from some people that were disappointed we were not holding Open Lapping on Saturday/Sunday 3 - there's no reason we can't still have road racing that weekend if the weather is nice... it just won't count towards the WCMA or WSCC season points championship. We could have sprints races, Australian pursuit racing, endurance racing or even cash racing if we want to that weekend. We will decide this just prior to the weekend.

Here are the dates for our 2025 Ice Season....as usual in the event of inclement or un-feasible weather we will utilize the following weekend as the event "rain date" (hopefully we won't have rain!). Note: Sunday Race Events also include Ice Drift along with Racing. · Jan 4th Beausejour Ice Oval (CPTC) Rookie School, Practice and Ice Drift · Jan 5th Beausejour Ice Oval (CPTC) Race Event #1 · Jan 18th Jan 25 - Winnipeg Ski Park (Lake Shirley) Rookie School, Practice and Ice Drift · Jan 19th Jan 26 - Winnipeg Ski Park (Lake Shirley) Race Event #2 · Feb 1st St Adolphe (Leblanc Rd retention pond) Rookie School, Practice and Ice Drift · Feb 2nd St Adolphe (Leblanc Rd retention pond) Race Event #3 · Feb 15th Winnipeg Beach Winter Festival Rookie School, Practice and Ice Drift · Feb 16th Winnipeg Beach Winter Festival Race Event #4 · Mar 8th Gimli Winter Festival Race Event #5 · Mar 9th Gimli Winter Festival Race Event #6 It is also worth noting that for 2025 the Lac La Biche Winter Festival of Speed in Alberta will be hosting an incredible weekend of ice racing on March 1 & 2. Stay tuned for additional information regarding this special weekend and let me know if your interested in joining the convoy of WSCC racers that will be heading out there to participate.

Big shout out to the incredible WSCC Ice Volunteers that braved the cold and made it possible to host our first ice event of 2025. The Frost Bite team: Llew Taylor - start/finish marshal station Ron Dallmeier - marshal station Brian & Judy Wiebe - marshal station Chris Gauthier - grid marshal The Ice Support team: Murray Burkett - gate/entry control Dason Wowk - race control Wayne & Nicole Schellekens - timing/scoring Stu Jackson - tow Scott McDonald - tow assistant and lunch courier Dave Evans - Radio Broadcaster Andre Daoust - Plow Bob Willmott - Senior Steward Andrew Cobb - Black Flag Steward Hamish Donaldson - Pit Steward Amy & Jordan - EMT As well, both welcome and congratulations to our new WCMA licensed ice racers: Jessica Jakabek Pascal Tetrault Kyle Swaffer Hope to see everyone out again in 2 weeks at Lake Shirley!

On the contrary. Everybody knows the world is not a fair place. But we're not talking about "the world" here and all of its injustices. We're talking about a racing hobby. My point from the start is that while PAX touts itself as being a "fair" system (to use your word), it is anything but. And the tone of your response would indicate that you seem to be fine with PAX being UNfair, because the world isn't a fair place. Not exactly sound logic. And at the end of the day, the event is called Time Attack. It's not Calculator Attack.

I don't think there's any honor in winning a race with a slower lap time. If I'm not mistaken in 2022 everyone was competing for the same trophy so 150hp cars were racing against 600hp cars. I think that's ridiculous. If I understand correctly the pax factor is suppose to eliminate any advantage that might come from modifying or building a faster car. Then the people that put in the most time and money are the ones at the biggest disadvantage. That seems like a bad way to try and grow this sport. I agree driver skill is more important then what they drive but I think it should be acceptable to put time and money into modifications to gain lap time.

My own two cents; I've always found PAX to be an extremely flawed system. While it can be interesting & curious to see where a specific car may place roughly in relation to cars in a different class, I don't feel that final results and standings should be based on the artificial numbers that PAX produces.

Time Attack is a time based competition. The concept is simple, drive your car around a track and whoever does a lap in the shortest time wins. That’s it.

Big shout out to all the great volunteers that came out to GMP to help put some of the finishing touches on the beautiful new and smooth asphalt that our beloved track now has. A lot of effort and equipment was required to apply a smooth transition to the new track surface edge in order to ensure it was safe and protected and ready for some great racing next spring. In no particular order.... Greg Eastwood, Wally Butler, Nate Butler, Will Popplestone, Richard Coyle, Tim Gordienko, Gerd Uebele, Murray Burkett, Tyler Goosen, Jim Worton, Steve Leiding, Brett MacDermott, Dason Wowk, Llew Taylor, Chris Gauthier, Brian Wiebe, Andrew Cobb, Glen Gordon, David Klassen, Brad Epp, Mike Gordon, Al Marcoux, Wayne Kehler....apologies if we missed anyone! What an awesome volunteer work crew!

That chart tells me, a GT1 car has to run a 1:03.517 to even match the GT4 record at 1:06.013. That's 1.209 seconds the PB for GT1 needs to find, or be in equivalent of current RAW times of the SGT class, but with a GT Car with PAX... Even my PB in GT1 is 2.379 seconds slower than what's required to match the GT4 record with PAX. But hey, if we need participation awards via math more than driver skill to make everyone happy, maybe Road Racing is calling next year.

I would like to point out participation is not dropping off entirely because of classing or the rulebook. Our trailer was not full this year or the prior year. The track conditions have kept our car count down as it deteriorated. This will change with repaving.

The previous PAX based system takes alot of the joy out of racing for myself. The simplified way we have done it for 23' and 24' seasons of all RAW times means you earned where you placed fair and square. Losing because of some math formula makes someone "faster" takes all the pride, fun and driver skill out of it and makes it feel like we give participation awards when they suddenly are faster because of math and modifiers.

Bad news - unfortunately we are forced to have to cancel our Event #5 planned for Sept 20-22 Good news - the reason for this cancellation is we will have contractors working on the track starting next week to finally spend our track improvement funds and make all the necessary repairs to the track including some resurfacing. Given the limited contractor timeline and window for laying asphalt in the fall we had to make the tough decision to ensure this work gets done this year. We apologize for all those that planned to come out next weekend. We anticipate that with an improved smooth track surface we will soon see the return of many cars including more vintage race cars, open wheel race cars and many other time attack racers. Be prepared for many of the current lap records to be broken in 2025!

Big shout out to Club members, Mike Demchenko and Steve Leiding for installing the clubhouse meeting room doors. Looks terrific and now that the room is closed off, painting, new lighting and tables/chairs can be added . Real good progress.

Personally I mainly look to Grassroots Motorsports, Reddit or platform specific Facebook groups (there's a dedicated track/autocross focused group for all Hyundai N platforms in my case). Oh and Tire Rack is a valuable resource of course, as is the Tyre Reviews YouTube channel. I would think there should be some threads on Rennlist pertaining to autocross tire selection for the 987 platform, but it's always very hard to tell how experienced a given online poster is and how their subjective opinion applies to your own use case. As far as competitive autocross tires go, your choice is fairly simple these days. It pretty much comes down to the Bridgestone RE-71RS, Falken RT660 or Yokohama A052. The Falken RT660+ is out now as well, I haven't personally looked into it sufficiently yet to recommend it. Here's my TLDR commentary on each of the above: RE-71RS: Reportedly slightly faster than the RT660 but we're talking really slightly here, IME it's so slight that one may be faster than the other depending on how your car and driving style can optimize the tire's performance with respect to temperature generation/management Asymmetrical non-directional tread pattern, can be rotated to both sides of the car, but cannot be flipped on the rims to extend life on camber limited cars Quick to reach optimal temperature but can be difficult to keep in the right temperature window on some platforms and quickly becomes greasy when overheated Very rounded off shoulder design and slightly odd wear pattern with center rib wearing diagonally for the early stages of the wear process then evening out through the tires lifespan Softer/dead feeling steering compared to RT660 IME, but the net result of this didn't end up slowing me down overall, YMMV RT660: Symmetrical, directional tread pattern, can't be rotated side to side but can be flipped on rims to extend useful lifespan on camber limited cars Tolerates more heat than RE-71RS IME, still fairly easy to bring up to operating temperature Prone to horizontal tread splicing if not heat cycled properly before hard use, apparently this tread splicing doesn't effect performance or safety but it does not look confidence inspiring lol Very square shoulder design and runs significantly wider than Bridgestones depending on tire width in relation to wheel size Very even wear pattern through my use on two different vehicles, one camber limited and one not camber limited Subjectively much louder and more annoying on the road in terms of NVH compared to the RE-71RS if that matters to you A052: Regarded to be the fastest of the three if you can satisfy it's operating requirements which are: Does not cope with heat well Seems to want lots of negative camber to work best Lowest tread depth when new and fastest wearing of the three Highest cost of the three I have no personal experience with this tire, I've always run the RE-71R, RE-71RS or Falken RT660 due to cost and incompatibility with my car (camber limited FWD that pumps energy/heat into the fronts) The latest hotness in the 200TW scene is supposedly the Vitour P1 which folks are comparing to the RE-71RS; however, when I looked into it briefly this option appears cost prohibitive compared to the 'Stones or Falkens. AFAIK Vitour is a direct to consumer company not sold through a traditional distribution network. I think it's attractively priced for our neighbours to the south but doesn't make too much sense in Canada. Lastly on the 200TW topic there are several other options such as Kumho V730, Hankook RS4, Nankang CR-S, Yokohama AD09, Conti ExtremeContact Force etc. but these are generally regarded as having less ultimate grip/pace as a tradeoff for longevity. They're very popular options for hot lapping, road racing etc. but ultimately not going to compete with the above 3 for all out pace at an autocross event. Further, depending on your car and ambient conditions it may actually be impossible to even get them into their working temperature window at autocross. Finally, regarding options with treadwear ratings greater than 200 UTQG generally speaking they will not be fully competitive at autocross. That being said if they strike the right balance for a given driver and their expectations and usage case they may still be a good option. Examples of good max/extreme performance tires would be Michelin PS4S or Pilot Sport S 5, Bridgestone Potenza Race, Continental ExtremeContact Sport 02. One thing to keep in mind is that some of these tires may disintegrate if you continue to push them hard when they are past their working temperature window and overheated. I've heard of overzealous N drivers fully cooking a set of PS4S in a single autocross weekend due to overdriving the tire run after run. Hopefully the above ramble is somewhat useful, as always take it with a grain of salt. The above comments are based on a bit of research over the past number of years of autocross and personal experience autocrossing on the RE-71R, RE-71RS and RT660. Commentary on sourcing tires in Canada and having 200TW tires installed in Winnipeg: Quattro Tires and PMC Tire have consistently been the most affordable tire vendors in Canada for me. Costco often comes close if you have access to a membership. The latest 200TW options aimed at autocross that I mentioned above can sometimes be brutally difficult for installers to mount. It seems to depend on the shape of the wheel's bead and the width and aspect ratio of the tire. The first set of RE-71RS I bought stumped 3 reputable tire installers. Since then I've found two local resources for tire installation that know the right tricks to install them with relative ease. One of them is Korey, a fellow autocrosser (Black S2000, unsure of forum name), and the other is Ultimate Wheel on Logan. AFAIK Korey can also source tires at prices that are quite competitive compared to Quattro and PMC so I'd definitely recommend checking with him.

The Open Wheels cars are returning to GMP! Here are some of them that will be hitting the track May 2 during our special "season opener shakedown test'n'tune session".

As you have seen, the preparations for our Licensing School are on the way, and WSCC once again needs the help of our trusted volunteers. The school will happen on May 3 & 4, 2025, and like always we are looking for helpers and instructors. You can register at http://msreg.com/2025SchoolVolunteers

Congrats to the winners of the 2025 Icelandic Pursuit Race! It was great to see such a huge grid of cars take to the track. Jessica Jakabek #36 Pascal Tetrault #30 Tim Gordienko #179

Thanks Wayne (Nicole & Mia as well) for all you work on keeping tabs of our scores all season! Congrats to our 2025 WSCC Fire on Ice Season Champions! Street Safe Class: 1st Place Street Safe & Season Points Champion - Bryce McDonald #42 2nd Place Street Safe Class - Al Marcoux #2 3rd Place street Safe Class - Steve Leiding #47 Studded Class: 1st Place Studded Class - Damon Surzyshyn #55 2nd Place Studded Class - Dylan Sabatini #29 3rd Place Studded Class - Ryan Lysak #05 Rookie of the Year: 2025 Rookie of the Year - Jessica Jakabek #36

Here are the results for Gimli Races #5 & #6. Everyone put on quite a show to the spectators and workers - thanks for a wonderful weekend! The WSCC FireOnIce 2025.pdf contains all the races (you'll have to zoom in or use a magnifier - I apologize about that) WSCC FireOnIce 2025.pdf WSCC FireOnIce 2025 r5-r6.pdf

Hey all, lock in your plans for the weekend after next and attend the final weekend of our Drift & Race Season along with our Saturday night Volunteer Appreciation Banquet party. Here is the schedule for the Gimli Ice Festival: GIF 2025_Event Schedule5.pdf

Awesome race weekend at Lake Shirley! Thanks to everyone that came out to Race & Drift or watch the action and more importantly those who came out and volunteered to help us put on an awesome event. Big shout out to our latest 2 new volunteers who helped with both Marshalling and Grid: Matt Bowles Cory Gould They joined an awesome team: Jen - Race Control Murray - Gate Llew - Starter/Marshal Ron - Marshal Brian - Marshal Gloria - Pit Captain Dave - Radio Broadcast Stu - Tow Scott - Tow Assistant Dan - Tow Assistant Wayne & Nicole - Timing/Scoring (and Tow) Amy/Jordan - EMT Andre - truck plow Jared - side by side plow Bob - Chief Steward Hamish - Pit steward Hope to see everyone out again this coming weekend!

Unfortunately we need to postpone our Event #2 at Lake Shirley and push it to the following weekend Jan 25 & 26. The blizzard today will make it practically impossible for us to re-plow the entire site in time to hold this weekend's event. That along with the windchill forecast for Sunday was a deciding factor as it is brutal on our valued volunteers. ______________________________ Join us at Lake Shirley for our Drift & Race Tour Event #2! Location: 365 Murdock Road, Winnipeg MSR Registration: http://msreg.com/wscc2025IceRace2 If your bringing guests, pit crew and/or passengers - here is the required speedwaiver link: https://wscc.speedwaiver.com/ldxiw Saturday 10am - Race School - required for all first timers and those seeking a competition race license 11:30am - drivers meeting 12:00noon to approximately 4:30pm - Track is hot with Drift groups, StreetSafe Class and Studded Class practice sessions Sunday 9:30am drivers meeting 10am - Track goes hot with Drift groups, StreetSafe Class and Studded Class practice sessions 11am - Lunch break 12:00noon to approximately 4:30pm- Track is hot for the Fire on Ice Drift & Race Tour!

I have to chime in here, maybe just because you said the magic word haha. Brian Earl Spilner, (it does sound like a serial killer) and Iceracer, I don't think I know who you guys are for real, or if we've raced together, but I appreciate the back and forth on the different views. This post has been quite interesting so far. Personally, I really like the idea of attempting to compare apples to oranges, as impossible as that is. I think we all just like to see ourselves on the same page, no matter our choice of weapons to strap into. I feel like I'm a bit of a freak in this world, because I've played hard at both ends, for quite a few years now. It took forever, but I eventually got quick enough in my "fast" car, and somewhere along the line, I accidently got quick in my "slow" car too. So it feels like everything I look at with this stuff has my eyes going in opposite directions. Now I'm in big trouble, because the track looked so nice the last time I saw it... now I want to put new tires on both before Spring, I think they can both do better!

I am interjecting here to clarify some things, and to straighten out some incorrect statements some people make. The PAX system that we have been using pre-2023 is the system that has been used by the Ontario Time Attack group for a long time. They use two different PAX factors; one for slow tracks, and one for fast tracks. Our PAX factors really closely mimic their fast-track PAX. We are definitely not the only ones using this system. The PAX factor set-up has been used in our club for a long time; it was already being utilized when I joined WSCC. Only in 2023 the then-active Time Attack director decided to do away with the 13 classes by combining them into four classes. There were most definitely advantages to the PAX system, as there were disadvantages. It needs to be said that some of the most vocal opponents of the PAX system didn't even race under the PAX system. They are definitely entitled to their opinion, but what are they basing their opinion on? While I appreciate all the different comments about other classification systems out there, for 2025 I have decided to go with what we have and know. We had a major discussion about utilizing Gridlife, SCCA, modified SCCA etc. some time back, and I am gladly willing to open this discussion again now that we have a track that is smooth enough to invite other racers to. However, for everybody to even get an idea how their car performs on this -essentially new- track, I am not willing to change technical rules. Let's all get a few laps on the repaved track before we shake everything up.

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Hi Everyone, The work at GMP has been progressing nicely. We have experienced a couple of delays, but nothing major. Greg has been going to the track everyday and providing updates to the BoD and Executive. I have attached a few photo's that Greg has sent along. Thank you to Greg for all your attention to this project, time and miles put in going to Gimli each day. The seam sealing, milling and routing has been completed. The 1" smoothing pass has been completed on the back straight. We expect the top coat of 2 1/2" of new surface to be applied next week. If the weather cooperates we anticipate the paving to be completed by mid to late next week. We will need a work party of Club members to help with the edge transitions along the new pavement. Greg will be letting me know when and what is needed. This will depend upon completion of the paving and the weather. I will send out an email with Helix's help letting everyone know when we have the details. The MRA has provided the pledged funds and they have been deposited in the High Interest savings account designated for this project. Greg has also raised an additional $600.00 in donations for Track improvement. I am looking forward to a smooth and fast track to run on next year. Regards Murray

Hi everyone. Some of you may know this car. I raced it last year and it has been at the track several times before I owned it. 2007 mazda 3 gt Manual 2.3 litre 190 ish km I did a 1:13 in it last year on some crispy market place 200tw tires. It's loads of fun. Windshield is special lightning design lol. Nice cracks in it. Rust... yes. But runs great. Just did the front brakes and new lines. And new spark plugs. Side pipe exhaust. It sounds as awesome as a mazda 3 can lol Reason for selling. I found a new clapped out car to race lol. Moving up to a v6. Interior is still nice. Doesnt stink. Doesnt leak and no mice. Shifts nice in all gears. If you are interested let me know. Looking to get 500 bucks. It's less than I have in it and a great beater for the price. Can deliver for a fee. I really enjoyed it. Would be very fun to do dirtx

Here is a recap video of Solo Nationals, gives you an idea of the courses and the social activities going on every year and why we have gone to 16 of them now. JXB 2024 Nationals Recap video

Read 'em and weep: Sorted by Best Lap: Sorted by Best Overall Time: 666Gordon.pdf 488Wowk.pdf 179Gordienko.pdf 74Theriault.pdf 137Csengody.pdf 37Wohlgemuth.pdf 29Popplestone.pdf 22Worton.pdf 5Lysak.pdf 65Epp.pdf 2Marcoux.pdf 1Rohochyi.pdf

It’s painted battle ship grey at the moment. It was not insured at the harvest fest show. The goal was to bring it to corn and apple car show! We met that goal and I got to talk to so many people there! Probably 5 people around the car checking it out at any given point. We had a hard time getting away from the car to check out the other cars. I’ve driven it around town for the last 2 weeks for the first time, soo much fun!