conebasher Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 The second vid wouldn't load for me' date=' but your motor sounds awesome even untuned, Mark. Could become a crowd favorite at Nationals. [/quote']Thanks. I found some big vacuum leaks and plugged them and it runs even better now. I think it's going to sound fantastic when it's at full throttle. According to my calculations, the MGB is going to be balanced towards understeer so I decided to install a sway bar on the rear of the car only. I found a sway bar calculator online and punched some numbers into it to figure out what I needed. Here is the calculator http://www.circletrack.com/car_racing_calculators/torsion_bar_rate_calculator/photo_01.html I used scrap aluminum blocks to make sway bar mounts, here's the drivers side:I built a bar based on the sway bar calculator. It is .750" OD, .500" ID and has an effective length of 28". The arms have 6 holes for adjustment from 69 lb/in to 163 lb/in and should easily adjust the car from understeer to oversteer. Here's the bar welded up:Here it is mounted but I still have to make the drop links that connect the bar to the suspension. Acccording to the sway bar calculator, the 6 holes will add from 69 lb/in to 163 lb/in to the suspension, and this should easily change the balance from undesteer to oversteer. Some in the Modified community say that mild steel works just fine as a sway bar as long as there isn't too much suspension travel, but I plan on taking the bar to get heat treated and turned into spring steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoman Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 http://www.technologystudent.com/equip1/heat1.htmPlease read this before you think you are going to " change steel grades".If I remember properly all ferrous steels have the same spring rates, the only difference being their limits of elasticity. A mild steel sway bar will work just fine untill it has been beyond its elastic limits. You would feel this as a driver and it would become visible as a twist in the bar as viewed across your sway bar arms with one of the links removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 http://www.technologystudent.com/equip1/heat1.htmPlease read this before you think you are going to " change steel grades".If I remember properly all ferrous steels have the same spring rates' date=' the only difference being their limits of elasticity. A mild steel sway bar will work just fine untill it has been beyond its elastic limits. You would feel this as a driver and it would become visible as a twist in the bar as viewed across your sway bar arms with one of the links removed.[/quote']Yeh, there is chatter on the Mod discussion group about this. I won't be able to turn mild steel into spring steel but there should be enough springiness in it for my use. 4130 is supposed to work better but it's not so easy to find in the size I need. There are places that build custom bars but I'm going to wait to see how my homemade one works first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving_Target Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 http://www.schroedersteering.com/SwayBarPage.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 http://www.schroedersteering.com/SwayBarPage.htmlWicked find, and with good prices. Maybe I'll have a professionally built bar after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving_Target Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 A guy in our club gave me the link a couple of years ago in case I wanted to build a rear sway bar for my Fox mustang. I still haven't gone forward with it but figured your situation was appropriate. There is some damn nice stuff even if it's for the right turn challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Another video of the engine running, this time it's up to operating temperature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoman Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Yeh' date=' there is chatter on the Mod discussion group about this. I won't be able to turn mild steel into spring steel but there should be enough springiness in it for my use. 4130 is supposed to work better but it's not so easy to find in the size I need. There are places that build custom bars but I'm going to wait to see how my homemade one works first.[/quote']The 4130 will not work any better it will just last longer.Talk to the sprint car guys about torsion bars if thats how you want to go but what you have will work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 The oil temperature, coolant temperature and fan sensor all use a 1/2" NPT size and the engine didn't have any holes that size, so I bought a tap and made my own.Oil temperature bung welded into oil pan:Coolant temperature sensor by passenger side thermostat:Fan sensor by drivers side thermostat (yes, the Jag has two thermostats):Video of sensor test and sudden coolant leak| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRS Joe Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The look on your face when it blew was priceless. Small issue. Wicked build. Ill be documenting mine like this someday when I can begin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyno Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I will bet your Dad never figured on his engine being in there:) You do know that every run you make is going to cause a big delay in the days event running. Everyone will be lined up watching and listening!! I think it is safe to say that the WSCC has adopted your car as ours. You should be proud, that is amazing work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 I will bet your Dad never figured on his engine being in there:) You do know that every run you make is going to cause a big delay in the days event running. Everyone will be lined up watching and listening!! I think it is safe to say that the WSCC has adopted your car as ours. You should be proud' date=' that is amazing work.[/quote']He would love it, I'm sure. I think the car is pretty cool and I hope it lives up to expectations in sound and performance. It should be driving within a month if the axle and release bearing arrive on schedule. Once it drives ok, I have to pull it apart for a paint job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesi92 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Awesome, Mark! You're living my dream! (One of them, anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I think it is safe to say that the WSCC has adopted your car as ours.What he means is that we all want to drive it. Frequently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 What he means is that we all want to drive it. Frequently! I'll have to put an ignition kill box on it, so if I let anybody drive it I can kill it if they get out of line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paceman Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'll have to put an ignition kill box on it' date=' so if I let anybody drive it I can kill it if they get out of line [/quote']You should be able to use the cart stuff to shut it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 I welded in bungs for oxygen sensors so I could tune the 4 carbs. Passenger sideDrivers sideAnd I rebuilt the carbs and found that the floats were set wrong, the temperature compensator valves were plugged, two of the 4 bypass valves were ripped and all the bypass valves were non-functional because somebody incorrectly routed the vacuum lines. Here is one of the temperature compensator valves, that circular part is a hole that is supposed to be open but is plugged with sludge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spraspire Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Wow, those carbs were dirty! Even still it was almost purring like a kitten!What sensor / board / software are you planning on using for your o2 sensor? I'm curious because I've been doing some research lately on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Wow' date=' those carbs were dirty! Even still it was almost purring like a kitten!What sensor / board / software are you planning on using for your o2 sensor? I'm curious because I've been doing some research lately on them.[/quote']It's not my software, it's Wall's Rod and Customs O2 sensors, which I think are FJO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 Video of flames shooting out the exhaust-it's cool, don't deny it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast_Toys Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Looks like a safety hazard... please address it ASAP.....AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I will admit it. Looks and sounds fast!If only you could drive it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast_Toys Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I will admit it. Looks and sounds fast!If only you could drive it that way. Oh the smack talk begins! I sure hope you are coming out this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 The fact is, if I can take my built-from-scratch-in-six-months race car and within a year be as quick as what I would be in my Porsche engineered car that I have been driving and developing for 3 years, I am either a) a freaking automotive genius OR a freaking driving sensation. What is much more likely is that some yet unknown suspension anomoly will make the car completely undriveable and the engine will be about as powerful as the 6 cylinder in the Boxster. If anybody thinks it's easy to slap together a thousand unrelated car parts into one competitive race car, have at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need my Focusin Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Or c) the porsche is just a glorified beetle.All kidding aside your car is bad ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spraspire Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I see spinning wheels, when will the inaugural run around the track be? And shooting flames out of the exhaust is by far one of the most fun things to do Looks and sounds great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 Or c) the porsche is just a glorified beetle.All kidding aside your car is bad assI recognize all the individual words in that first sentence but have no idea what it means or how it relates to my MGB Anyways, once Phil gets me a hydraulic release bearing and I install it, I only have to plumb the brakes and the car is driveable-can't wait!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I sure hope you are coming out this year!Don't pressure the guy. Maybe he's not ready to leave the sanctity of his closet yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyno Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I have a feeling that this beast is going to be quick right out of the box. how many cars run with this much time put it on setup? I will be there to see the first run for sure. Oh and you have to name it, how bout ""Big Ben" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conebasher Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 I have a feeling that this beast is going to be quick right out of the box. how many cars run with this much time put it on setup? I will be there to see the first run for sure. Oh and you have to name it' date=' how bout ""Big Ben" lol[/quote']I had some doubts about how much power it has but I just uncovered a dyno graph from the same engine and even though they revved it to only 5500 rpm, it made 250 hp and 272 ft/lb at the wheels. My exhaust and intake should flow better and I will be revving to 7000 so it should be ok. I am tossing around car names, Big Ben is pretty good but it makes me think of Gentle Ben the bear, and this car is probably not going to be gentle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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